Democratic Senate candidate James Talarico is drawing attention after saying he would oppose Sen. Markwayne Mullin’s nomination to lead the Department of Homeland Security—while also describing undocumented students as some of the “most patriotic” individuals he’s encountered.
During an interview on The Bulwark Podcast, Talarico made it clear he would vote against Mullin, stating he would reject any nominee unwilling to dismantle Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which he controversially labeled a “secret police force.” Not exactly a position that screams “border security first.”
Talarico pointed to his past as a public school teacher in San Antonio, explaining that many of his undocumented students were, in his view, deeply patriotic. He argued that these students believed in the promise of America as a land of opportunity, even when facing challenges within the system.
He also criticized current immigration enforcement policies, claiming they unfairly target hardworking individuals and families. According to Talarico, enforcement efforts should instead focus on cartels, human traffickers, and gang members—not everyday people contributing to their communities.
At the same time, he acknowledged failures on both sides of the political aisle over the past three decades, including shortcomings during the Biden administration, which he said contributed to the current situation.
Meanwhile, Mullin’s nomination continues to move forward. It recently advanced out of committee in a narrow 8-7 vote, with an unusual split that included opposition from Republican Sen. Rand Paul and support from Democrat Sen. John Fetterman. A full Senate vote is expected soon.
The contrast couldn’t be clearer. On one side, calls to dismantle ICE and redefine enforcement priorities. On the other, a push for stronger border security and a more traditional law enforcement approach.
Because at the end of the day, immigration policy isn’t just a talking point—it’s a question of how a nation enforces its laws while maintaining order. And judging by statements like these, that debate is far from settled.
Still, as the nomination heads to the Senate floor, the process itself reflects something important: decisions are being made, debates are happening, and the system is moving forward. And in a time of sharp disagreements, that’s a sign that leadership—and accountability—remain very much in play.
